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Chaitanya
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Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: United States (Virginia)

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:25 am
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whatever123 wrote:

Chaitanya wrote:

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Whats bothering me is the undue importance to AMS in T's history whereas what it diservers is just a cursory remark . I see a fixation from your side on AMS jsut because it identifies the name by which people of YOUR region go by ...I have no qualms abt it , I am not an Andhrite and will refuse to be identified by it .I am Telugu speaking Indian asking for a seperate set up and asking you not to distort history and give AMS undue credit , lest you might (infact are ..) rob credit from the actual people who deserve it .

"undue importance" ???? After Chaitanya the irrigation and geography expert (but does not know about loong border Ap shares with Mah) the forum has Chaitanya the historian. As in the past you will have rudimentary knowledge about History but will flap your tongue anyway. The motivation being the silly anxiety of saving Telangana from Coastal Andhra on some imaginary pretext.

AMS is the MOST significant political organization in Telangana before 1947. It was under this banner that communists ( the people who fought with their blood for the rights of your ancestors) fought against the Nizam.

What is visible from your post is your anxiety that the word " Andhra" is getting credit. But in this case I beleive knowledge can cure your anxiety. Here is a copy of my post in the past to one of you ideological soulmates who sufferd with similiar anxieties.

"To be ignorant about elementary things is one thing. ANd to build hatred on this ignorance is one crappy thing in which our T speratist brothers specialise. Anyway I will resist the temptation to scold this "geek" and make an attempt to explain to him some elementary facts of Hisotry .

First is to cure the anxiety of "geek" that "andhras" are trying to steal credit for T liberation. Let me assure geek that nothing of sort is being attempted.
One of the root causes of this misperception of geek is his flawed understanding of the words "Andhra" and "telangana" and their relationship between them.

Much like many T sepratists "geek" believes that ANdhra and Telangana are two different things confined to two different geographies and denote two different people. WHile that view has some credibility in the street it has no acceptance in official and scholarly versions of history.

Telangana is a part and parcel of ANDHRA PRADESH. Andhra is a synonym for Telugu from which the word Telangana originates. And coastal AP districts are just that - coastal. If you look at any offical media like DD news or even private channels like ETv or Tv9 they refer to coastal districts as either coastal districts (Kosta) or as coastal AP ( Kostandhra) but never as ANDHRA. Because ANDHRA denotes enitire AP including T, R and COastal AP.

Now AMS is set up by Telanganites and Andhra is an identity which is as equally applicable to T as to R. This piece of information may pop out the brain of a T separatists but thats the fact. Madapati Hanumanth Rao is a telanginite and a Andhritie - there is no contradiction in that but he is not from KOSTA.

So when I say AMS fought for liberation of T it does not mean people from Kosta only fought for liberation of T. It means that people from T and from Kosta fought it under the banner of Andhra ( Visalandhra to be precise).

Having resolved this contradiction I will make an attempt to tell "geek" that this liberation war was fought over years by AMS with a lot of support from Kosta leaders and people. In those days people did not hate each other on the basis of their region unlike now. Many valiant people from kosta and Telangana have fought for liberation fo T region from Nizam and merge it in to Andhra province to form the Visalandhra."

Ok ...first things first ..The geography aspect was supposed to be a sarcastic remark indicating to you that Andhra (re read my post ..I said Andhra not A.P ) does not share of boundry with M , but it is rather T which shares a boundary ..anyways I thought you'd understand a bit of satire ...My Bad !!!

""Many valiant people from kosta and Telangana have fought for liberation fo T region from Nizam and merge it in to Andhra province to form the Visalandhra""

Please ..please do not distort history in here. Please keep out A from Hyd liberation .Given a chance I am sure u'd rewrite history ..Chand Bardai anyone .A's struggle agaisnt the British and then the Madras state was its own and T's its own .Please do not club the two for unterior motives .Let History remain as it is .

Again , you dont dissapoint me with your barbs ..hey dude why dont you come up with something new against me .Hmm ..how about ..like I am ugly .hmm short and hey .. how about this ...ahha sorry I 'll let you be yourself .You are at your best when you are yourself

TelanganaStatesman
Telugu Puli

Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:28 am
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Ohh, where did u read that I'm opposed to T?

If you clearly observe I specified Andhraites..ohh I forgot you changed your stand but you are still Identifying with your Andhra Identity.. what do we call you now Uttara Andhraite ?
or you are still Andhraite and you need 2 states for Andhraites.. correct me If I am wrong? (dont say that we are Indians then we are citizens of AP .. blah .. blah.. everybody knows that)

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EITHER WE ARE ONE OR WE ARE FOUR

I have serious objections with this slogan.. You have right to ask separate state for your region or you can stick with United AP.. but you don't have any right to talk about other regions aspirations..
what do we know .. may be Rayalaseema and South Kostha will form great Andhra.. it is also possible by seeing the formation of agitations every day
Note: I applied your logic only

whatever123
Telugu Kavi

Joined: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 801

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:11 pm
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Chaitanya wrote:

That was satire ? If it is it was pathetic. But I dont think it was satire and by the way my substance of the post here is different. That topic does not really belong here. But like I have seen you before you ignoring the substance when it does not feed your paronia.

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Please ..please do not distort history in here. Please keep out A from Hyd liberation .Given a chance I am sure u'd rewrite history ..Chand Bardai anyone .A's struggle agaisnt the British and then the Madras state was its own and T's its own .Please do not club the two for unterior motives .Let History remain as it is .

Your insecurity is not even funny.That was history you moron. there was an AMS and it was the only significant political organisation in NIzam areas before 1947. Bang your head against a wall but that was the way history was.

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Again , you dont dissapoint me with your barbs ..hey dude why dont you come up with something new against me .Hmm ..how about ..like I am ugly .hmm short and hey .. how about this ...ahha sorry I 'll let you be yourself .You are at your best when you are yourself

My barbs pale in front of your barbs against an entire region and a set of people some of them living and some of them dead. After all my barbs have been generally only against individuals who demonstrate their thinking in these posts here. But the cake goes to when you say - ANDHRAS SHOULD GET OUT. Or that the ANdhras in 1956 came to expolit T.

Geek
Telugu Teja

Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 458

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:42 pm
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Chaitanya wrote:

Whats bothering me is the undue importance to AMS in T's history whereas what it diservers is just a cursory remark . I see a fixation from your side on AMS jsut because it identifies the name by which people of YOUR region go by ...I have no qualms abt it , I am not an Andhrite and will refuse to be identified by it .I am Telugu speaking Indian asking for a seperate set up and asking you not to distort history and give AMS undue credit , lest you might (infact are ..) rob credit from the actual people who deserve it .

AMS a non-existant organization in Telangana is being glorified by the Andhra users. The fact and reality is AMS was non-existant during the Telangana struggle for freedom from the Razakars and as well this day in our struggle for freedom from Andhraites. Its just a figment of Imaginative minds with no knowledge of history.

I guess that after a few years after Telangana the same slogan that AMS bought Telangana fought for by the great HariRama Jogiah. Smile

Again to all those who are propagating about AMS, Telangana was helped liberated by the Indian National Army under the brilliant leadership of Sardar Vallabahai Patel. Dont resort to distort history and waste time talking ablout this non existant thing called AMS.

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